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    usarmycwo Guest

    Default how to determine if program safe or not

    Fellow ZoneAlarm fans --
    First, I'll tell you, yes, I've searched for this in the ZA forum. I'm sure it's there, it's got to be a common concern, but I've not found
    it.
    Here's my question: Does a
    list of programs exist that gives a quick summary of the safety of
    a program listed in ZoneAlarm, and the effect on your PC if it's blocked?
    My wife has now three times been unable to use the internet after clicking on Deny. (The first time when I was stationed
    overseas and it resulted in a service
    call.) Strangely, even though she sets the Deny under her own login profile, I'm also blocked when I log in as mine. I'm even blocked logging in as administrator. (This really confuses me.)
    I fixed it the other day by using System Restore (my wife thought I was such a genius), and fixed it last night by logging in as admin and putting a red X on every program I had any doubt about.
    But there were a lot of programs listed that I didn't recognize, eg:.NET Runtime Optimization ServiceApplication Layer Gateway Serviceaspnet_regiis.exeFlash UltraShimjobcheck.exeMMalicious Software Removal Tool Update Stubns1f.tmpnsC.tmpPRESTOPM MFC ApplicationRegistry Editor (boy, that one scared me)Run a DLL as an App (this one, too)SSetup.exeSLE6.tmpupdat32.exe
    Some programs were identified a bit when I clicked on them. But can
    the description in the info box be trusted? If it says Adobe or Microsoft, can we trust that it really is from them?
    You might suggest googling whatever program I'm worried about, but my list of suspected programs runs
    two pages long, single spaced, and this would take forever and a day.
    Surely a list already exists.
    Can anyone point me to it, please.
    (Since blocking all those programs last night, by the way, the computer is running like lightning. I wish I knew which program was responsible for slowing us down so much.)


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    Default Re: how to determine if program safe or not

    Hi!you can easily copy/paste the name of the executable/file/DLL in Google and you will get (most of the time) detailed information about the process.If you are still not sure about it, you can upload it to www.virustotal.com, the file will be checked by more than 30 antivirus engine.Cheers,Fax

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    usarmycwo Guest

    Default Re: how to determine if program safe or not

    Fax, thanks for trying
    to help me. I was hoping someone else would point out, though, that your suggestion to google each doubtful program was something I'd specifically said I didn't want to do.
    No, I'm looking for
    a list
    I feel certain already exists. Two lists, maybe. Lost One: These Programs Are Legitimate. Second list:
    These Programs are Poison.
    If the lists added a sentence or two of description for each entry, all the better, but I'm prepared to accept a reputable site's advice without question.
    Might you know of something like this?

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    naivemelody Guest

    Default Re: how to determine if program safe or not

    Here try these sites: http://www.processlibrary.com/directory?files=alg.exe
    . [
    It is not necessary to use the free scans on most of these websites; just do your searches for your items - gather intelliegence.]<hr>http://www.processlist.com/<hr>http://www.liutilities.com/products/...library/ntvdm/<hr>Here are two lists of the usual Windows XP SP2 services: http://theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm<hr>http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicefg.htm<hr><hr>Ok you
    have a big list - you have to remove all the temporary program/files that you ususally get after an install/update. All programs ending in &quot;.tmp&quot; , 'run once -/wrapper', 'self-extracting cabinet', some 'setup.exe and installers'=be careful some of them you do need to keep(if they return- keep 'um). Give them all
    two green bars - each, the rest ?, then right click the file/program &gt; click &quot;Remove&quot;. Do not use &quot;Kill&quot;. One of the biggest 'polluters' of your list is the monthly Microsoft Update - with those ~ Windows
    Service Pack Setup
    - again give them two or three green
    bars in &quot;Trust Level&quot; &gt;
    the rest ' ? ' then remove after a day or two.
    For example - Malicious Software Removal Tool Update Stub - that you can remove after a day or two, but will return every month.<hr>check your settings against this - http://forums.zonealarm.com/zonelabs...message.id=145<hr>Before you install any program or while your visiting any website it's good to use an &quot;anti-phishing tool&quot; such as the free www.siteadvisor.com . See this - http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...=103332#M17528
    I use siteadvisor, easy and simple to use and free.<hr>PCMag.com's article &quot;Search Securely&quot; dated 4-16-07 by Neil J. Rubenking - http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/...=194624,00.asp<hr>As always the best security tool - is the 'safe surfing user' - be cautious with &quot;free&quot; - ringtones, smiley faces or animated cursors, free music or movies, giftcards, etc.'<hr>:0NaiveMelody NYC 8-20-07 - Hold On Loosely - .38 Special


    Message Edited by NaiveMelody on 09-15-2007 09:35 PM

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    Hi!Often names of files (especially malware) are changing at every install... so any list may be useless.See, for example, here:http://www.castlecops.com/StartupList.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O18.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O20.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O21.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O22.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O23.htmlhttp://www.castlecops.com/O9.htmlAs already told you, best route is to check yourself with online scanning tools.Cheers,Fax

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    Hi!another utility to check if the file is safe or not:http://spywarefiles.prevx.com/spywarefilessearch.aspCheers,Fax

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    usarmycwo Guest

    Default Re: how to determine if program safe or not

    NaiveMelody (neat name, too) -- Your post was wonderful, a keeper. Am going to work through your suggestions this weekend when I have more time to give them full attention. Many thanks.

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