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    Default Are You Wasting Your Money Buying Antispyware Software?



    Antivirus programs often surpass antispyware apps at detecting and blocking threats.

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    They must have read/listened to Guru Oldsod

    Having used ZASS, which has AV, in it for several years, antispyware (Spybot, Lavasoft, SuperAS, a2 scan, KAV scan, ewido scan) never found anything other than 2-3 tracking cookies. There was Spywareblaster registry settings, so that may have played a role to some extent. Currently, AV products really seem to be doing most of the job that counts.

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    To All:

    Antivirus utilities were not designed to protect against spyware. While they do detect and quarantine/remove some spyware, depending upon the configuration, they do not do as good a job as the top antispyware utilities.

    It all depends upon what you do on the Internet and how much security you require. The latter depends upon how valuable the information is that resides on your computer and how valuable your time is(like for fixing the damage done after an attack).

    There are other solutions besides antispyware. Again, it depends upon your needs and what you do on the Internet.

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    It not only depends on what you do on the internet, but how you do it.
    Block the java, javascripts, vbs, activeX, mime, swf and iframes in the browser or the firewall and you will probably not get any malware installs from the internet. Use browsers such as Opera or Firefox - neither allows any installations, unlike the Internet Explorer.

    I have seen antviruses catch a lot of riskware/malware/spyware and troyans (some classified as spyware) and such. They catch/stop it well enough, but fail at doing as good at cleaning it up. It still takes some manual cleanups and file/reg cleaners to remove the remmants.
    Their ability to catch spyware has greatly improved from just a few years ago.
    Before that they were terrible at catching troyans - they just mainly caught viruses and worms and missed most troyans. This too has changed- the antivirus has met or exceeded the detection rates of the dedicated troyan scanners.
    Expect the antivirus to soon have the very same if not better detection rates as the very best spyware scanners. The only thing the antivirus may not have what the antispyware has is it's numerous shields. If you consider these a real neccessity.

    Oldsod

    Message Edited by Oldsod on 12-23-2007 04:41 AM
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    I think anti-virus software is integrating features found previously in anti-spyware but this poses an issue!
    Will anti-virus software become horribly bloated if it continues to become an all-one fixer?

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    I doubt if the antivirus will introduce a lot the bloaty features of an antispyware scanners.
    I look at it this ways - having two or three scanners hook into the kernels is worse than just scanner hook in. Too many scanners and the PC runs slow and has lagging.
    The windows OS was never designed to become a system to support security scanners - having an antivirus check every file/script/.dll/.exe/etc opened, read and executed should be enough.

    Another point - most antispyware scanner brags about their definitions list. Sure it has 150,000 definitions, but 80,000 or so are all for cookies! So why let the bad cookies in in the first place??
    This cuts the defintions down to 70,000 or so. Okay the antivirus scanners ' list does many of the antispywares last 70,000 definitions.
    This leaves just some it will not catch. Probably some spysheriff or some thing of that nature. Guess what - spysheriff does not affect Opera or Firefox and if either are properly used, nothing will infect the PC through these browsers.

    The best "free and no resource" using antispyware and "always works" antispyware scanner is the Limited User Account. Little if anything can install in this mode. That simple. Just have the updated AV running in case of a nasty virus that will eat the file system or the hard drive or some self-propagating worms.

    Oldsod
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    "Another point - most antispyware scanner brags about their definitions list. "



    And what none of the anti-virus software vendors tell you is... ALL of these definitions list are subject to human error.

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    Oh they admit they have false definitions - after the user deleted his Word or Office or some vital windows file. Experience helps in this area.

    Oddly enough I enjoy the antivirus scanners with great heuristic engines. Lots of false positives happen, but these seem to catch a lot more than the definition based scanners. Not for the timid or the inexperienced.

    Oldsod
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    Yes that is why they call it a "false positive" instead of "human error". lol

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    Mistakes do happen, but naturally all the antivirus vendors try hard not to make mistakes.

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