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    spurkza Guest

    Default ForceField Possible Program Conflict questions?

    As I do financial transactions online and currently use Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite v8.0.298.035 (I realize 8.0.400.020 is now out there) on a Windows XP home system, I am considering use of Zone Alarm ForceField or Zone Alarm Extreme Security? What program conflicts has anyone experienced between ZAFF or ZAES with any of the following additional security programs and hardware products I have on my 2GHz processor, 2MB memory 2.5 year old Dell PC? (All of these I have experienced no conflict with ZAISS).

    1. PC Tools Spyware Doctor v6.0.441, paid version for real-time spyware detection and removal http://www.pctools.com/
    2. PC Tools ThreatFire v4.1.0.25, free version, zero-day detection http://www.threatfire.com/
    3. Mozilla Firefox v3.0.10, I rarely use Internet Explorer
    4. Firefox add-on/extension McAfee SiteAdvisor v2.9
    5. Firefox add-on/extension NoScript v1.9.3.3, prevents javascript from running at websites unless allow it.
    6. Spyware Blaster v4.2.
    7. Task Lock v6.2, blocks access to websites, programs, or windows directories I specify, which I have used for years (available at CNET downloads). To some, this may be considered a keylogger of sorts.
    8. A wired (not wireless) Linksys router model BEFSX41.
    9. A 16GB Patriot flash/thumbnail drive with Iomega automatic backup software which I use to back up my Mozilla bookmarks upon every exits among other larger data file backups.
    10. Common sense while web surfing.

    I am guessing I can rid of item 4 and may possibly rid of items 2 and 5 if 'upgrade' to one of the ForceField tech products, but please confirm?

    Also is there a free/15-day trial version of Zone Alarm ForceField available, so can try it and see if any unexpected problems before buy?

    I appreciate in advance any responses to any of my items/questions above.

    Operating System:Windows XP Home Edition
    Software Version:8.0
    Product Name:ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite

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    spurkza Guest

    Default Re: Correction to post / ForceField Possible Program Conflict questions?

    I am guessing I can rid of item 4 and may possibly rid of items 2 and *6* if 'upgrade' to one of the ForceField tech products, but please confirm?

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    Hi!You are making happy a lot of security companies! :8}I am suprised that you can successfully run ZASS with all this list of conflicting application like 1,2 and likely 6.Is your system running at a decent speed? ZASS + Spyware doctor + Threatfire should really heavily slow down you.Personally I would remove 1,2,4,5,6. You will for sure enjoy a faster and equally protected system.In any case, you should try ZA Extreme before buying it, all versions of ZA have 15 days trial.You can download it here: www.zonealarm.com/trial Cheers,FaxP.S. Remove ZASS before installing ZAX

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    Hi,
    Only two security companies making $wise happy, Zone Alarm/CheckPoint and PC Tools/Symantec (more $ to ZA). I only have one anti-virus scanner active and running and that is ZAISS. As for spyware, I have seen estimates that is 85% of infections with viruses only 15% (I have not had a PC virus for years, except for one false positive). I provide back office admin support for a computer security company serving large businesses, and they emphasize to all of us employees of having layered PC security. I figure for spyware what Zone Alarm does not catch which does I believe a quite good job, then hopefully the other software will, especially for zero day threats. The few times over the years I have had a spyware infection, its not fun sometimes spending lots of time cleaning it up. Yes, it is surprising this all runs well together, but on a 2Ghz processor, 2GB memory machine, I have not noticed any slow down in performance.

    As for beefing up my PC defenses, is there a trial version just of ForceField only? I could simply add it to ZAISS and if by chance, it does work out, I could simply uninstall it. Otherwise, have to uninstall ZAISS, install ZAES trial, and if not work out, uninstall ZAES, then reinstall ZAISS and get all of the previous settings back in place. If proceed with ZAFF, I have no issue uninstalling 4 and 6 as by reading the online ZAFF manual these are covered, but what is your logic, other than PC performance, to uninstall 1, 2, and 5?

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    Hi!De gustibus non est disputandum :8} so behappy with all that list ofsoftware, but as expert in security you should know thatyou don't really need all of that... ZAFF on top of ZASS? Yes, you can try, it should work well. ZAFF has a trial, take use of it.1,2, 5...? The logic is avoid overlapping tools, less conflicts behind the scene (less hooking on kernel) and less problems in case of infection (software will block each other and fight for resources) with the end result of LESS security. SD is not anymore good as it was, threatfire can conflicts with ZA and can cause serious issues, the other does things that ZA already largely covers. Sum-up: Why running all of the above if with ZAX you have already it? I was doing the same.. then at every update I was fixing the conflicts with applications, turning ON/OFF part of each. Why doing so? Just keep one application and use all the power.Cheers,Fax

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    Default Re: Correction to post / ForceField Possible Program Conflict questions?

    Thanks Fax for your insights! I understand the problem of overlayering, through the hard way. At one time, I even had MS Windows Defender on top of this, and that did create conflicts, and I uninstalled that. At the same time, I can trust one software solution, ZA, for firewall and anti-virus, but the spyware problem is no pervasive that I have not seen one vendor's product catching 100% of the problem. My past experience with trusting just one vendor's product for anti-spyware, at that time Lavasoft 2-3 years back which I ditched it when it resulted in not catching a few spyware problems I rather not spend time repeating cleaning up. From my experience, to layer with two anti-spyware software products, with more than adequate PC power, may happily coexist together, though I respect everyone's PC situation is different.

    I did find the free trial of ForceField which I plan to try soon.

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    Should not have typed this without my AM caffeine - fixed one typo in **.

    Thanks Fax for your insights! I understand the problem of overlayering, through the hard way. At one time, I even had MS Windows Defender on top of this, and that did create conflicts, and I uninstalled that. At the same time, I can trust one software solution, ZA, for firewall and anti-virus, but the spyware problem is *so* pervasive that I have not seen one vendor's product catching 100% of the problem. My past experience with trusting just one vendor's product for anti-spyware, at that time Lavasoft 2-3 years back which I ditched it when it resulted in not catching a few spyware problems I rather not spend time repeating cleaning up. From my experience, to layer with two anti-spyware software products, with more than adequate PC power, may happily coexist together, though I respect everyone's PC situation is different.

    I did find the free trial of ForceField which I plan to try soon.

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    Default Re: Correction to post / ForceField Possible Program Conflict questions?

    You're welcome!For spyware issues, no need of other active scanners. ForceField will isolate the browser and eliminate 90% of sources of infection (hidden drive-by-download), there rest is managed by the ZA double scanner (kaspersky + ZA)and the ZA OS firewall.You can use backup scanners (only 'on demand') like MBAM Free and the free Superantispyware from time to time. The first specialised in scamware (large majority of infections today) and the latter specialised in persistent pests. Thats all you need :8}Cheers,Fax

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    spurkza wrote :

    Should not have typed this without my AM caffeine - fixed one typo in **.

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