Thanks, surfa!But I was just wondering if you could do an upgrade of a beta over an existing version and then the upgrade of the new release over the beta without the hassle of the uninstall/install process? I know how to do a clean uninstall, it's just that I've found upgrades work fine on my pc! I've read horror stories about the subscription screwing up and I just renewed for another 2yrs.! The only problem I have is what Eeight is haveing, AS shuts off trying to install file version 01. 200709.2415 to .2455.......and there is alot newer one out there now! AV updates fine!......plus it is still doing an automatic update and I have it set on manual!......have you tried beta .423 yet?